tips for bludge bm's

[crouchinhmpsterhddngerbil]

so I made it to 18 today ^^ and I'm goin' bludge, any tips on combos, weapons, armors to go with them, etc?

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[hiarieshi]

I don't think there are more positive's than negative's with using a bludge.

That's pretty much my input.

[Gnawer]

PvE advice:
Backstep dribble. Aerial slam dunk. Land dramatically with Ashe Fork. Everything falls to the floor helplessly for you to repeat your basketball practice. The shockwave wipes the floor with everything that can be knocked down.

Actual combos:
XX SST SST SST X -> Backstep Cutter -> Whatever you want -> Upward slash -> Whatever you want -> Backstep cutter -> repeat.

Blunt combos are easy if you can get someone into it.

I would say make getting penril a priority, Penril is a cheap and nice level 35 blunt that poisons for nice damage and will serve you well for annoyance in pvp. Else, get a black steel cudgel, or if you're semi-rich, get a legacy blunt. 35+ legacy blunts are all average instead of slow.

Armor set, well, blunts can use whatever they feel like. Attack speed from avatars and late game weapons is good enough with their simple combos, go with whatever you feel like. But you might want to get a blunt +1 avatar, because blunts live off of the mastery. Higher your mastery, higher your backstep cutter bounce, and your backstep cutter bounce is the spine of your existence as a blunt WM.

[Face]

Infinite combo troublesome enemies.

Upper>xxx>BSC>repeat
Easy but doesn't work on enemies that rise quickly.
Upper>BSC>xxx (only last hit contacts)>repeat
Takes more timing, depends on the weight of your enemy, your aspd, and bludgeon mastery lvl.
these lameass combos work in pvp too
On a floored opponent bludgeon can of course do all the forever ground combos WMs can do with any weapon, but the slight bounce on BSC makes them a little easier. More importantly, after BSC you can relaunch them with upper or gore. Weeeeee

At lv30 try getting the space fish spine club. It adds to bludgeon mastery and has a 3% chance for random statuses. Wheee
At lv40 get shauta's axe handle. No questions. 5% lv40 stun wrecks PvP and PvE alike.

[Sie_Sayoka]

Lv45 Bludgeon elastica gives 4% attack speed, something that a slow attack speed weapon really needs

I can't believe you guys don't use gore cross, it is one of the most important skills for use in combos.

Also make sure that you always move forward when attacking so that when you use BCS you don't miss them.

[afinalcadence]

My combos in pvp usually are as simple as:

(assuming they're already on the ground for whatever reason)

backstep cutter -> upward -> xxx -> backstep cutter -> upward -> dash jump attack -> repeat everything until you can't

And I'll usually throw in ashe fork, backstep ashe fork, neutral wave sword, gore cross, or delay the upward, or whatever as I need to, since not all classes can be juggled the same.

Some other things you can do. If you catch someone with charge crash (I realize you won't have it for a while), charge it for just a brief moment, so that the downward slam will hit them while they're still in the air. They'll get knocked away from you, but you can combo off it if you do a dash jump attack, and then backstep cutter -> upward combo. Or you can just not charge and follow up with the standard upward.

If a person is next to the wall, you can use wave wheel, and combo off that, too.

You can also consider wearing heavy armor, because it gives you more defense, and the extra damage isn't so important when you're juggling everything anyway, and you yourself become harder to juggle because of the heavier armor (though you'll have less hit recovery), and the lower jump height can actually work in your favor since you can't aerial chain slash anyway.

For PvE, the pvp combos work well enough. Some places it's easiest to just spam jump attack. Like when you're in the GBL Hatchery, and Vangelis just summoned Hughton. You can pretty much lock down Hughton the entire fight just by jump attacking spamming a Minister adjacent to him. It's kinda tedious, but it's really helpful if your party can't handle Hughton or you can't afford to get hit.

[crouchinhmpsterhddngerbil]

Originally Posted by hiarieshi

I don't think there are more positive's than negative's with using a bludge.

That's pretty much my input.

>:O

and thanks for all the info guys, I'll try to get all of these into my combos. Another question though...when you use backstep cutter and it bounces does it reset your combos? (ie reset the whole fast fall thing because they bounced off the floor)

[CowZ]

Originally Posted by crouchinhmpsterhddngerbil

>:O

and thanks for all the info guys, I'll try to get all of these into my combos. Another question though...when you use backstep cutter and it bounces does it reset your combos? (ie reset the whole fast fall thing because they bounced off the floor)

No it doesn't. Re-launching does not reset it.

General Tip: Get as much Bludgeon Mastery as you can since More Mastery = Higher Bounce.

PVP Tip: When you use BSC make sure you turn around. Otherwise your jumping away from your opponent making it more difficult to continue your combo.

PVE (?) Tip: Try to get something that adds + Jump. That will allow you to do a Jump Attack -> Ash Fork in a single jump. Cheapest would probably be the Level 35 Myre Royal Guard Shoes.

Edit: Be careful of the level and type of opponent your facing in PVP as surpassing the Fast Fall Protection and forcing them to stand from excess damage is a lot easier than it is with the other weapons. It can also give your opponent a free combo if you're not paying attention.

[Cheese]

Level 30 Light Armor "Ceramic Shoes of Determination" grant +20 Jump strength

It think that's what they're called, at least. Should only run you like 50k

[Stream]

Wow. I just got my bludgeon mate to 30 yesterday.
And what can I say?
We Facerape pvp hard...
I can 100-0 people in one combo because of the fast fall protection thing cuasing people to stand up immediately and people don't realize this so BAM, another free combo.
Screw jump att btw. Only use in PvE to mobs things together and to play with.
You don't need jump shoes to do air attack + Ashe fork btw but it does make it easier.

You should have no problem in pvp once you know the basic of DFO in general....